Discovering a passion may seem easier for people who know from an early age exactly what they want to do with their lives. They don’t have to question what they “should” be doing; their passion found them first. But what if you’re passionate about something like making funny memes, or gaming, or off-roading, and you can’t figure out how to turn that interest into a career path? Or what if you, like most people, have several less intense interests? Or what if you don’t have a clue what to eat for lunch, leave alone what to do for the rest of your life?

You don’t create your life first, and then live it. You create it by living it,” says Terri Trespicio in her popular TEDx talk, Stop Searching for Your Passion. She believes, “you don’t follow passion, passion follows you.

One of the most effective things you can do to turn a hobby like gaming, comic book collecting, or even binge-watching Netflix into a career is to go where people are making a living at it. Tell people about your passions and interests so they can connect you with relevant groups and causes. Volunteer or get an entry-level job at a business or organization that interests you. The work that you do there isn’t what matters, but your deep interest and enthusiasm do. Once you are in the door, give yourself fully to every task, even if all you’re doing is making copies. Your positive attitude will be appreciated.

“You feel passion when you give yourself fully,” explains Terri Trespicio. “It doesn’t matter what you’re doing. Throw yourself into it, help, dare to be fully into whatever you’re doing.”